by Georgi Stankov Posted on November 15, 2015
by Georgi Stankov and Dominique Lagae, November 16, 2015
November 14, 2015
I’m sending you this post which was submitted by Joana to the PAT Group in 2014. It’s a bit of a mess, but I kept it intact. What matters most is Nancy Tate’s message from Horus about “(your) and Carla’s physical (ascension) entrance to Agartha on November 28, 2013 at one of the Inner Earth portals that is located in the Bavarian (Austrian) Alps”. It totally resonates with me and offers some remarkable aspects of being in the 5th Dimension and how you relate to and interact with the 3D plane from that position. Can you validate this message by Horus? Although it’s still available in the message history of the PAT Group, if one makes the effort of using the search function, I very much doubt anyone else is aware of this channeling anymore, even Joana. I’ve decided to keep this confidential for now, because Nancy Tate and Kathryn E. May are woven into this post.
Thank you very much!
Love and Light, Dominique.
3 January 2014
Dear All, here is an interesting info Divsy Pafe sent via mail. Dianne Robbins (actually it was Larry Frank from Mt. Shasta who asked Nancy Tate through Dianne Roberts, whom we also very well know, to question Horus; note, George) asked about Georgi and Carla!
The Bavarian Ascension Story
(It is actually an Austrian, note George)
TY dearly Larry, would love to receive the preceding chapters & everything that happened.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 5:47 AM, Larry Frank <email@example.com> wrote:
As requested below is one of the ending chapters of the “Bavarian ascension story”. I say one of the ending because the story has really just begun with the latest development being Kathryn’s Dec. 28th channeling of Carla Thompson. If you want to know the chapters that preceded this channeling from Horus, through Nancy Tate, just let me know.
P.S. I, as well as Nancy did not underlined in blue letters, Horus’ answer to my first question. If you want to know what happen let me know I will tell you.
Larry: I have a major question(s) for Horus. The questions that I have for him are as follows:
Question: Can you validate the reported physical (ascension) entrance to Agartha by Carla Thompson and Georgi Stankov that took place on November 28, 2013 at one of the Inner Earth portals that is located in the Bavarian Alps?
Horus: I Horus am sure that it was as reported. I say that because I met with them in Agartha. They ascended in order to give an example of the ablity that we each have to follow our guidance and do as we intend. Of course that is an individual acceptance and understanding of what it is to be able to ascend as they did. They came into this life to be that example, and in their journey with their inner guidance they were able to present the example.
Question: If this is true where are they now?
Horus: They are now meeting with certain members of the Galactic Alliance in Agartha. They are going through the process of being able to enrich their vocabulary in the essence of what it is to be in the presence of the Agarthans and to realize that they came from here into this lifetime. It is a matter of them reconciling with the ones who were in the process with them, and being able to go over the steps that they took and to assist them in realizing how it all came into being.
It also is helping them to see and understand how their destined plan was a success and how it affected others with whom they shared certain pieces of information. As they move through this reconciliation not only of friends there, but of family, they are being sent to another dimension to garner the information in a way that is interdimensional. This means that they are able to see what they not only contributed for themselves and others in this lifetime, but for the rest of the universe and interdimensionally as well.
Question: Is it possible for Nancy to channel them?
Horus: It would be possible if she were in agreement with doing it. It is not what she has lined up for the time being, however she is not closing the door to that possibility. As she sees it, it may not be necessary to do that as it won’t be long before many of you beautiful lightbeings realize your abilities for telepathy, and so channeling will not be necessary between you and those of us who are in the same ‘wavelength’ as is often said.
Question: If so I would like to ask Georgi for him to describe what actually took place when they went into the portal and what happen once they arrived in Agartha?
Horus: I will tell you this, for Georgi is not present in this conversation right now. He is otherwise occupied and at the same time is streaming the information though me to Nancy. I will say this much, the experience that he had was that he felt the pressure for an instant of what seemed like a pressurizing of his body to a size that might equal two earth pounds; this was his feeling. Then in that next instant there came the flash of his beingness becoming as huge as what he saw the universe to be, and that was infinite. In other words he experienced the disintegration of the ego and duality energy within and was reunited with his infinite beingness.
With that experience he also saw many instances of his experience on earth flash before him and he found that as he chose one, it slowed down and it was as if it ‘spoke’ to him of what it brought him, to lead to this ascension. He found the unboundedness of being able to do that with any of the instances he chose to experience in the earth energy in which it was created. At the same time he was able to see that even that was only in a micro-second of time that he experienced it. So the bottom line is that what he chose to review came to him in and out of time depending on the attention he gave it.
When he arrived in Agartha it was as a homecoming that almost seemed to go backward in time, though of course as you know there is no time here. As he saw where he was and began to move into the energy of Agartha, he realized that we were waiting for his realization that he was not only here, but that he had transcended time in doing so. He was able to be in the same energy that we were in, and was able to know/see what had taken place here since the experience he’d had of going into the duality of earth in this lifetime. He realized that, as you earth people would say, “I didn’t miss a thing by leaving here, for once I returned it was as if I never left.” It was in completeness of his knowing and experiencing.
Question: I would also like to know where, when and how will he and Carla be returning to the surface as Ascended Masters and what will they do upon their return?
Horus: this depends upon what happens in the moments of the coming expressions, not only of their visits in Agartha, but of what takes place on the surface. As you know much of what is predicted to happen in these times on the surface can instantly change, for that is the energy of Inner/Hollow Earth and the surface becoming in Oneness in expression with each other. As people on the surface change their minds, give differing energies to any of the situations, etc, the results can be not only different from what was broadcast, but can be confusing to the people because it does not correlate with what they have felt and, or heard from others.
This will continue for a bit longer and when it gets to the point where there is an overriding abundance of the majority being in agreement, then it will take a major turn, and all will begin to fall into place, seemingly almost on its own. This will happen because of the energies of Oneness, and that brings it all into sinc. So, to answer your question, they will return when the energy closely, if not completely, matches what they are experiencing here in Agartha. In that return they will be part of what will be necessary in bringing all of this beautiful surface to its pristine beauty and harmonious return to perfection for all who choose to live on the surface.
Yes, this is the first planet in this universe that will continue with life on the surface. It will set an example for the rest of the planets and they will have the choice whether or not they choose to inhabit the surface of their planets, as well as the innerness of it. That will be part of what will be taking place in the new expression of this universe as it all relates to the Oneness. This universe was created for this duality experience and what we all learn and experience from it. In that way it is part of what we have been saying about the infinite expression of this universe. It will not all go back to the Creator, with its ‘job done’. As is said in so many instances, it’s only just begun.
I do have one more thing to say to this, and it is that there will be many more instances of surface dwellers coming into the Inner and Hollow Earth before it is time for the ultimate shift. This too is part of the plan, and the results will be seen and felt throughout all of existence when it reaches the epitome of expression in the resultant love that is felt throughout all of Creation.
I, Horus, now close this session with Divine Love and Appreciation for All Of You.
I remember now to have read this message about a year and a half ago but must admit that I had forgotten it. That is why I sent it to Carla to read it one more time and then we discussed it before I comment on it to you.
It is true that between November 26th and December 18th, 2013 we had many extraordinary experiences with Carla in Lofer, Austria – some of them at the conscious level and many more at the subconscious. There are so many more expressions of us of which we have no idea at the level of the human mind that we have no clue how much more we do and experience in higher, much more valid expressions. Some of the experiences we had consciously are captured in the long chronicle of messages Carla received at that time and also later and published here:
The most notable is that we indeed ascended one more time on November 28th and visited the mothership of the GF which was hovering above our heads all the time. All ascended masters such as St. Germain, Babaji, Sananda came to us and congratulated us exuberantly, also the Elohim. We also had a very close contact to the Agarthans who had a base under the crystalline mountains around Lofer.
For several days we were taken away almost the whole time, but we have no clear memories what we have done in other dimensions. At that time, around December 5th we also created Gaia 5 as documented in the chronicle.
Based on these experienced we decided with Carla that this message from Horus must be correct as it fully coalesces with the messages we received at that time and the multidimensional experiences we made. It sounds as clean and truthful message. But we cannot confirm its content at the conscious level to this full extent. However, given the fact that at that time we finished with our incarnation and are since then only as avatars present in this reality, I think that this is a truthful presentation as far as human words are capable of describing such multidimensional realities.
Since then we began to actively and more or less consciously bilocate.
I think that you should also read one more time the chronicle above as it gives you a very good picture of what happened with us these days.
Thank you for your interest.
With love and light
Messages Given to Carla in Lofer, Austria:
November 28, 2013, 10:00 a.m. in Lofer, Austria, The Elohim
“The realms of light move with the divine grace of God to hold the perfection of purification for this expression of All-That-Is. We are the Elohim and in this moment we bring great news of joy, of wonder!
Many levels of rapture unfold to embrace this expression, this world you call Gaia, and within her great halls, her story born of great pain and suffering, very shortly comes to an end, where resolution re-incorporates to her Being, where distinction resumes [where it was once lost to the world].
Begin by re-arranging your light upon the Earth, by re-inventing your creation to reflect the grace and harmony and love from which the Prime Creator chose your path.
Return to the inward focus, do it today! Refrain from speech, social gathering, all inter-action with the world, today! Turn toward your Self! Today is a celebration of You!
Know you are of Divine orientation, that you need only your internal reference points, the points of God alignment, that one can only know from the inner embrace, the inner reflection.”
November 28, 2013 at 2:00 pm, The Elohim
“Greetings, we are the Elohim,
Humanity shall celebrate its arrival into the New Age of Enlightenment through recognition of its divinity and its pure intent to go within and joyfully embrace All-That-Is, first from the perspective of an individual and then as a collective, as One, within the Unity Field.
As one now brings forth all the inner strength available, the inner strength to embrace equally the Pain of this existence as well as the Rose… the Rose is the salve for the pain. It is the wholeness of this existence that is the pure reflection of the Divine…”
Note (all Carla’s notes below are written for George): This message was not written up initially because as you can see, it is not very clear. I had a severe cc-wave that began during this message, and this was actually following the severe and sudden stabbing pain behind my right eye, you may recall this event. It really is not a significant message in my opinion. However, in my notes I make reference to all the angels being present, at around 4 pm. and in my opinion, this was significant.
November 28, 2013, 8:18 p.m., The Elohim
“Welcome! We are the Elohim!
You have been brought to this place (Lofer, Austria) as a sealed portal, where neither heavy energies, nor stray mal-incarnates shall affect you.
The area of this Gaia holds profound protection for you as Ascended Masters, protection from low frequential adjustments to timelines and dimensions beyond your current location.
Crystalline caves fill these nearby mountains within their cores, and these are interconnected to Gaia’s crystalline grid within which the energies flow. These energies lift Her and all those who have previously followed suggestions to go within. These expressions shall be lifted with Her, as One.
You, as Ascended Masters, are now connected to this sacred crystalline light, as you are fully in your light bodies, your frequencies meld with those of the inner mountains. One supports the other in a symbiosis. You are now experiencing a Unified Field of light gestalt.”
November 29, 1:00 pm, The Elohim
“Greetings to you, we are the Elohim!
Night turns to day and day to night, as you are caught within the stream of ascension! What is up is really down and what is down is really up.
This is a time of great flux, and a time of great import. Hold the line unto the end!
Everything moves forward, onward and outward as All-That-Is expands itself into conscious awareness.”
November 29, 1:30 pm, Babaji
“I am Babaji!
Here I have come to update your information. All moves along carefully and fully into a new expression of reality.
One may not even notice how much everything has indeed changed! The energies are full on, the change gains mastery and the Masters gain confidence.
Allow yourselves the enjoyment of the illusion!”
Note: At the end of this last sentence, there was an interruption in the flow of this transmission.
November 29, 2013, 21:00 pm, St. Germain
I am here to honour you for your grand fidelity. You have both remained true to the path of enlightened Beings throughout the many incarnations chosen to pull humanity through to the final frontier.
This great challenge has been fully successful and you are both indeed grand masters of the illusion experiment.
The phase transition is the final aspect of this long process and everything is going well, perhaps perceived as going slowly, but know it is being completed very carefully. There are no errors accepted at this point and none shall arise.
So rejoice and enjoy your final moments within this auspicious expression of life within our Divine Universe!
This supersedes all others in love, in grace, in peace and in beauty. Enjoy the flow from perceived separation into the Unity consciousness, as this wave shall be your first, and your last!
I am Saint Germain”
November 30, 2013, The Elohim
“Greetings, we are the Elohim!
Your Grand Sun imparts willingly through open gateways to the Central Sun, those informational Codes necessary now to seed the newly anchored Fifth Dimensional Holograms, upon your New Earths.
All upper holograms of the ascension protocol that have expanded upwards and outwards require insertion and integration of refined consciousness, purified mathematical models and rarified seemingly tangential objectives, all proven means of the deterministic outcome of all new holographic representations of your New Earths.
We say “New Earths”, as you are correct in your clear assessment, there are now many, many holographic Earths, that are sealed from forces of influence previously rendering cyclical incarnation for the sole purpose of energy containment and separation from the Source. These ways are now isolated and kept at distance from those of Godly proportion, from those that are of All-That-Is.
These Codes form the basis of consciousness within each New Earth, the framework is fundamental to future onward evolution throughout eons of time/multitudes of expansion and expression.
As each set is imparted upon each hologram, there also follows insertion points for new informational packets to be received as identified along that reflection of reality.
It becomes like the LEGO CITY with many foundational pieces having the ability to receive new pieces (of consciousness) in order to build each Earth’s level of consciousness according to those incarnates, who have found that place in which to evolve.
Each Earth receives different foundational pieces, having differing levels of consciousness, differing levels of participation and differing outcomes. There is a “New Earth” for everyone!
It is in this manner that All-That-Is creates and creates Fully (No exclusion, All inclusive)
As Ascended Masters you ARE taking part in this creation, in a moment to moment inclination. Your contribution continues to be honoured by All-That-Is and you must recognize this to be so.
You are deeply loved, Elohim of the First Light, for ever and All ways!”
“The pendant you (Carla) hold (Silver Sun Pendant) contains all codes necessary for the creation and building of your New Germania (later known as New Raetia). It is decreed and it is done. It is the seed of the new and first City of Light, bridging the Old reality upper 4D to the new reality lower 5D.”
December 1, 2013, Galactic Federation of Light (Three Beings arrive in the Living Room, Lofer, Austria)
“We are emissaries of the Galactic Federation of Light and we come to you in this moment to clarify the current situation.
In this moment, our grand ship (mothership) is anchored above you in its full majesty, although unseen by you with your physical eyes, you know we are here because of your astute telepathic ability.
Yes, we are here, for you (Carla), and for your dual soul (Georgi), to provide the ultimate protection from any insurgence which can manifest in any moment and jeopardize the ascension process at this time. The experience you encountered yesterday (a sudden attack on us by a dark entity, while shopping when we were urged by the mothership to suddenly return home where we were protected under an energetic shield) was not your imagination, but real in every way. We shall not dwell on details as they are of no importance. Suffice it to say that your Light (light from our light bodies) shines the worlds over and can now be seen easily by those of ill nature who remain in small pockets upon the Earth, outside of this dwelling.
A special protective shield, is now in place around you, as a frequency fence, to camouflage your presence.
You will notice a build-up of energy, in the form of thermal energy, or heat, and this is simply a side effect of the efforts of this fence in its camouflaging properties. It shall certainly do no harm, and may only fatigue you at moments of overload.
Your concern for your family (Carla) is natural and comes from social conditioning of the “Mother” role. It is best to remember, and to focus on this idea, that your children represent All of Humanity and All of Humanity deserves true Freedom in the Light. True freedom shall arise from the “setting straight” of Humanity’s history, true history, and these revelations shall set these Worlds on a new footing, and upon a new path into the Light.
You must simply rest now, and you must hold the faith through and through.
Yes, we are here! We are real! We are here for You! Your dual soul (Georgi) knows this truth!
Pull from deep inside and bring forth the natural faith in the Prime Creator, in the Divine Order, for your salvation from concerns born of earthly focus and of ill-alignment. You have done it many times! Trust in this Divine Order!
Meditate on it now, to hold it, and bring it into your very Being. Meditate on it frequently, even when you feel solid in your beliefs.
We wish only to openly support you on your divine path, and, of course, as it is still your final decision, we can only hope to lovingly support you along the way.
Thank you for your dedication to the Light. There are many, many here, upon our ship. That are sending you both, their messages of love, of light and of peace in support of your sacred mission during this auspicious time in Earth’s history.”
The Birth of the New Logos-Gods of Gaia and Humanity
New Guardians of a New Galaxy
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The 11.11 portal began actually more than a week ago.
How do I know this? Yesterday in the afternoon the Arcturians came to us and gave us this oral information, which Carla summarized as follows.
“This is the portal of unification – unification of all aspects of an individualized expression, of all aspects of your multidimensional selves. This includes the anchoring of massive, pale turquoise crystalline light pillars into Gaia’s core, using the crystalline grid pattern.
Unification of your I Am Presence – the Holy Spirit of Creation – with your body/mind/spirit system.
This is not only the complete unification at the level of your souls, all of your multidimensional soul aspects in different realities (by this the Arcturians implied our simultaneous manifestations in Arcturus, Pleiades, Sirius, etc.). This also means the unification of Gaia with the Whole, her full connection to her new level of expression within the Golden Galaxy. This is a complete integration of the crystalline light pillars that you have now inserted into her crystalline grid and into the core of her body.”
The Arcturians urged us to go to the Infinity portal and receive these new codes of unification for their further dissemination. It is the first time that the Arcturians have come to us. But they are responsible for the 11.11 energies and this portal each year since we opened the stargate 11.11.11 four years ago. At that time they approached me and the PAT through Suzanne Lie and gave her some messages for the PAT. This explains their sudden appearance yesterday. Before that Carla was receiving information from the Elohim on the nature of this or any other portal from an energetic point of view, but the connection was interrupted when the waves hit us very hard.
That is why I am speaking in this report of the Head of Janus of this portal, referring to the first silent horror film “Der Janus-Kopf” from 1920 conducted by the famous German director F. W. Murnau. The film was an unauthorized adaptation of Robert Louis Stevenson‘s novel The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
The portal actually began early this month and some of you have reported about the constantly growing intensity of the source waves. There was one pronounced peak around November 5th. Then two days before 11.11 the energies peaked one more time and I had non-stop cc-waves for 48 hours, day and night, which is unique even in my long career as chief cleanser of human dross. At the end I was so exhausted and depressed that I began to write the following energy report yesterday morning under a severe headache:
“I do not know how you feel but the prevailing sentiment that have today (11.11.) is of being pissed-off. I am pissed-off with the incessant cc-waves which accompany each portal opening. I am pissed-off because I do not want to be pissed-off but have to process the collective energies of pissed-off-ness of the masses only because they reject to open their senses and see the truth of their illusory reality. Instead all these people are pissed off because their illusory expectations no longer match the reality which is now crumbling under their asses. And we have to process their dross because they are not able to do it on their own.
I am pissed-off with all the promises such portals evoke in our hearts only to crash us one more time physically. Since 48 hours I have non-stop waves with a persistent severe headache alternating left and right and not a single elevated feeling in my heart. Am I to be blamed for that? Nope. I remember how pissed-off I was when the 11.11.11 passed by and nothing happened, but only my personal situation deteriorated to a veritable hell in every possible aspect – a family that rejected me for my ascension ideas henceforth, a financial gridlock that still persists, a reality where I felt as foreign body and subsequently rejected it myself, etc., etc. Read one more time all the personal portraits of the light warriors I have published on this website to have a full view of the human hell on this toxic planet.
I did not want to live anymore and created my tumor in the groin which would have allowed me to leave this reality in an honourable manner. But the soul has always a back-up plan. She connected me to my dual soul and gave me a new perspective in life – the proverbial straw for a drowning person to survive the interminable torture of the ascension waves and to continue carrying the burden until the last straw will break his camel’s neck – the light-warrior-camel’s neck dedicated to the cause of All-That-Is.
I have always propagated the honest expression of one’s feelings – be they good or bad – as they come and go. If I am now pissed-off, there must be a reason for that and I will know it soon. I may be that this is the prevailing sentiment of all humans as heaven is now pulling the rug away from under their feet. It may be that there is another postponement in the final ascension. I do not know and honestly I do not care. Because I have a terrible headache now and none of the promised elated feelings this portal was supposed to bring are possible under such circumstances.
On the other hand, I know that the last two ascension portals on September 28th and October 28th were massive and brought us to a completely new energetic timeline. It maybe that this portal will finish the job even if it may not feel like that at this particular moment.
Since several days I knew that this portal will fulfill only one promise – the invariant and unavoidable crashing of our physical bodies as hapless conduits of source energies without a choice of rejection. Once a light warrior, it is a life-long sentence, where the very word “life” is an euphemism. It is Guantanamo water-boarding to the end, while the promise that Guantanamo prison would be closed has been postponed indefinitely.
What comes next? I do not know, except that the tortures from the Source will continue for us unabated to the very end. I know that there will be ascension and transfiguration and with it we will cease to feel as humans. How is it to feel as a liberated non-human, discarnated being? I honestly do not know for sure, but what I know for sure is that none of the anthropomorphic references other light workers put forward to present their version of paradise have any relevance in All-That-Is and really do not matter. As I have known this all the time, I have concentrated myself on the virtues of logical, axiomatic thinking and have subordinated all my imagination to such logical rules, even when I have presented the most daring visions of our future as transliminal, multidimensional personalities.
The only thing that will survive our ascension is logic as the human embodiment of the Logos, the Universal Law of All-That-Is. The rest is figments of the human ego-mind to fill in the gaps of the current illusion.“
Immediately after I “ranted out my frustration” my situation improved significantly. The headache stopped and we were able to visit our Infinity Portal under the guidance of the Arcturians where we received the new codes of unification. After that they gave us the aforementioned information, including the confirmation that this portal was a full success and was very powerful indeed and all our pain and suffering have not been in vain.
That is why one must vent out his frustration with the most torturous work a human being can accomplish on this planet, as the PAT regularly does, in order to discharge the negative collective feelings that accumulate in one’s fields as dross energies before their ultimate elimination in the void. I personally felt during the last 2-3 days very poignantly the utter frustration, anger, intolerance, existential angst, impatient insolence that now emanates from the masses, while being flooded with this massive photonic stream of source energies. I assume that you have felt similar negative feelings these days and have been as pissed off as myself. Hence do not hesitate to vent out your frustration too as this is the only effective way to process these low-frequency dark energies and leave them behind us without affecting our spirit.
Fortunately the energetic situation changes so rapidly these days that one can always count on a quick improvement after any such ordeal. Essentially this portal sets forward the work we have done during the portals on September 28th and October 28th, on August 8th and so on, back to the stargate 11.11.11 that weld together the PAT as the global motor of ascension.
I warned in my recent writings that, while this portal will be very powerful, nothing tangible will manifest at 11.11. First, these new energies have to be incorporated and utilized by all humans and by Gaia before the next ID push can take place. I expect now an acceleration in the collapse of the Orion matrix which may manifest in a manifold manner along the well-established cracks on its facade – financial crash and shutdown of the banks, full expression of the Greatest Depression of all times, which is now seen by a growing number of critical experts and can no longer be hidden, a full fiasco of the hegemonic foreign policy of the Empire of Evil, disintegration of the EU under the invasion of the refugees from the Middle East, etc. etc. We have discussed all these weak points of the current system and each one of them has the potential to pulverize the Orion matrix and, put together, their destructive force is irresistible.
I personally hope that our (PAT) situation will improve slightly in the next days as we have moved again to new, much higher vibrational timelines and have shed off a huge chunk of darkness from the collective fields of humanity. As we have now also a massive influx of old souls as walk-ins, many of whom entered this holographic model in the last 48 – 72 hours, we will witness very soon a significant leap in the light quotient. Many more revelations will come out and will transform the society without much resistance. Because these new ideas for the masses – old for us – will be welcome by the new souls and not rejected due to fear-based patterns as was the case with all unripe soul fragments that have now left this timeline.
By the way the unification of Gaia with All-That-Is includes also all kingdoms – the animal, plant and mineral kingdoms – for which we as ascended masters and Logos Gods are responsible. This was another key message of the Arcturians yesterday who essentially did not tell us anything particularly new beyond what we already know, but only confirmed the success of the 11.11 portal in the unification of Gaia and humanity with All-That-Is and the new Golden Galaxy before its final ID shift. We should be now very vigilant the next days and detect any new cracks in the Orion facade that will herald its final collapse.
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U.S. Dollar: The End of the Barbarous Relic
by Georgi Stankov Posted on November 13, 2015
A Discussion with the Author Jeff Nielson From Sprott Money as to How the Dollar Will Disappear and What Will Come Next
by Jeff Nielson and Georgi Stankov, November 13, 2015
Finally I was urged by my HS to enter a theoretical and pivotal discussion with the journalist Jeff Nielson from Vancouver who writes for Sprott Money and has published many outstanding articles on the financial fraud in the western world. I have re-published some of his articles in the past as they very well present the collapse of the Orion monetary system and matrix from a critical, though still rather conventional point of view and support our predictions.
That is why this exchange of opinions has a pronounced pedagogical and explorative character and can be regarded as a clash of world views between second wavers and ascended masters that prepares the fruitful ground for future theoretical discussions as to how to organize the new enlightened human society in the new 4D worlds. We create these new earths in the Now and, as Brad showed in his latest article, we, the PAT, are now the driving creationary force, the cutting edge of evolution, behind all “spontaneous’ revelations of the experts and protagonists of this final battle between light and darkness that also trickles down to the masses and pave the way for the final Big Change and ID shift.
Jeff Nielson published a few days ago an important article denouncing the dollar as a barbaric relic currency that is doomed to disappear from the real economy very soon. This is also our key prediction for the End Time. I participated for the first time in the discussion on this website and was very positively surprised when Jeff answered me. Today I responded to his reply but as my latest reply has to be authorized by the editor of this website you can only find the first two posts here:
For this reason I decided to publish the full discussion in advance as I am not sure if my second reply will be posted. This discussion is pivotal in any respect as it paves the way for many future discussions on this and similar issues with representatives of the ascending humanity. That is why I leave it at your discretion to participate in this discussion too and then I will be glad to publish your comments. Before you read the comments you should read the original article given above as a link as to know what we are talking about.
Dr. Georgi Stankov, 2 days ago at 10:46 PM
While Jeff’s elaboration is correct in the historic perspective, it does not explain why the dollar has gained so much in value against all other currencies this year. Jeff should have discussed the end of the dollar carry trade, the unwinding of which has caused a huge dollar illiquidity worldwide. The dollar will not disappear as a currency relic by losing its value through currency exchange, but by rising so high in value that it will simply vanish from the real economy, as this will also happen with gold, much to the chagrin of Jeff and other protagonists of gold as the better currency.
The future will belong to a completely new digital form of payments and transactions that will be based on the unanimous collective acknowledgment what the true nature of money is: Money has no value in itself, unless humans ascribe it one. Ideally, it should be a mirror image of the properties of energy, after humanity has comprehended that everything is energy and in particular human economic activities. I think that it is time for Jeff to discuss in-depth the philosophical and physical aspects (in terms of theory of physics) of money and gold as physical currency as this key aspect of money is highly obscured in the Western world and in particular in North America. Without a proper understanding of the true nature of money, all discussions will ultimately remain unyielding and will not contribute to the evolution of humanity.
Sorry for this sober conclusion by somebody who highly appreciates Jeff’s contributions on finance and has re-published many of his articles on my website.
Dr. Georgi Stankov,
Vancouver, Munich, Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Jeff Nielson, Yesterday at 7:03 PM
Georgi, it’s simply not possible to “account” for everything in the space of a single commentary, even though mine tend to stretch a little longer than most. My perspective on the U.S. dollar is not “historic”. It is current. It is a fundamentally worthless currency — today.
“…it does not explain why the dollar has gained so much in value”
No, I do that in another, recent commentary:
The Western banking crime syndicate are convicted, SERIAL currency-manipulators. So when one asks why ANY currency is valued irrationally, the answer is the same: “convicted currency-manipulators.”
The suggestion of “dollar illiquidity” has no basis in reality. The dollar is being PHASED-OUT as reserve currency. China has done $TRILLIONS in “currency-swaps” and “bilateral trade agreements”. Every one of those deals reduces demand for dollars, and increases demand for renminbi.
Meanwhile, the WORLD dumps U.S. Treasuries, adding yet another dollar-glut to global markets…
If there was ANY significant demand for dollars, the U.S. government wouldn’t have had to “launder” (literally) $100’s of billions in Treasuries onto the balance sheet of Belgium — to fake demand for dollars. These are the “sober conclusions”, Dr. Stankov. ;)
Dr. Georgi Stankov, Today 11.00 am
thank you very much for the comprehensive reply – it is highly appreciated.
Your approach is historic in the sense that the devaluation of the dollar entered its most intensive phase after Nixon abolished the gold standard in 1971. And it is true that it is an actual phenomenon because the worthlessness of this bogus currency is being manifested in these days. But it took a very long period of time to arrive at this point. I personally expected it to come much earlier and was wrong as many other critical forecasters. Hence there is no difference in our opinions.
Your further explanations as to why the dollar is losing its role as world currency are completely in line with my observation of a temporary dollar illiquidity, it terms of money tightness, because most other nations such as China, but also all emerging nations, are now getting rid of the dollar, as you say, which means they have to pay back their loans in dollars in this same currency and need to buy real dollars under worsening conditions (end of the dollar carry trade) in order to do this. This is also the reason why we have a credit and cash crunch in the entire western world as the dollar still accounts for more than 60% of all money in circulation. By the way, this issue is currently widely discussed even by the fraudulent MSM.
That is why I predict that the dollar will disappear from the real economy not because it will lose its value at the currency exchange markets but because it will become so ridiculously overvalued that nobody will want to use it as a functional currency as this will also happen, or has already happened, with gold. You did not comment on this forecast on my part, which is in the core of your article – why the dollar is a relic currency and must disappear, whereas the question how it will disappear is the key one in this academic discussion.
I agree that it is a conditio sine qua non in any enlightened discussion on current finance issues to consider the criminal activity of the ruling cabal and their stooges, the banksters in the one world bank, as you name it, and I like this term very much, because we have to do with a well orchestrated cartel of notorious criminals in all key positions of power in the western society. Their aim is the full destruction of the free market economy that could only cherish during the Cold War in the West under the nuclear danger of mutual annihilation by the Communist bloc. The West had to be simply more effective than the communist bastards.
Now that Russia and China have left behind the failed experiment to establish the NWO on half of the globe, the old Anglo-Saxon empire is desperately trying to establish this same NWO in the western hemisphere by abolishing the free market economy, the middle class and by totally impoverishing the broad masses. This is done by a variety of destructive, but deliberate measures which we observe in an exponential manner in the last quarter of a century.
You have described brilliantly many aspects of this effort of the western cabal to destroy the world economy and establish the NWO, although the latter concept has not been clearly explained in your articles, most probably (and this is my personal assumption) because of self-censorship. In Germany we speak of the “scissors in the head”. Not because you are not a courageous thinker, you are probably one of the most courageous writers in North America, but because you are involuntarily rejecting the transcendental dimension and the overarching driving force behind the current historic events in the End Time of humanity. You are afraid that you might be blamed as being too “esoteric” in a hard financial world, although you have already trespassed this threshold, but this is a separate issue I do not want to delve into now, although it is of primary cognitive importance for any true thinker.
To discuss theoretically the disappearance of the dollar as a relic currency affords much more than just pointing at the criminal activities of the banksters behind the crashing of this world currency that makes no logical sense whatsoever and cannot be explained entirely with the stupidity of the ruling cabal as at the end they will also lose everything. The cabal may be sociopaths, but they are not stupid. Otherwise they would not have been able to control the entire world for so long.
The truth is that they know that their demise is close and inevitable, because it is of cosmic proportions, and they want to gestalt their ousting from power according to their, what they consider, favourable conditions. This will not happen but this is the whole motivation behind what you and I, and many other critical experts observe as a seeming insanity in the financial sector and in the economy these last years and days.
This is all from a historic perspective, even if it also includes the near future. But apart from that it is our intellectual duty as thinkers to design new just and effective forms of finance that will be based entirely on scientific and ethical principles and will lay down the foundation for the establishment of a new enlightened society which we all want to live in.
And here is the proper understanding of the physical nature of money in the core of any successful attempt to reform this debased society, for which you have so much contempt, and rightly so, in all your articles.
As far as I see it, you did not even approach this topic, of which I made you aware of, in your response and I am not sure if you even understood where I am heading to as it is of such an abstract simplicity that it appears, at first (wrong) glance, as an insurmountable complexity. It is an urging for an utmost expansion of one’s awareness that triggers so much unconscious angst in front of this infinity that the human mind contracts and retracts to old, known and convenient half-truths. A fundamental gnostic problem of all humans and the greatest hurdle for true spiritual evolution of mankind.
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Brad Barber, November 13, 2015
I sat down to write something yesterday as the pain reached astronomic levels (the undersides of my kneecaps were in my eyelids), but I had two ideas presented to me and didn’t know which to write. I can see why I elected to wait as reading your latest update let me know exactly what needed to be done.
I was going to write a more creative article that had Bob Cratchit interviewing Ebenezer Scrooge from Dickens fame about his experience of going from finite to infinite after the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come scares compassion into his tiny heart. The fun part was that I was going to mix this in with a dedication and style the whole story to Kurt Vonnegut, Jr’s homogenous human classic, Harrison Bergeron. For those that love a quick, classic read and aren’t familiar with it:
I wasn’t aware Vonnegut was Mr. 11/11 birthday guy, but I woke up on the 11th with that story in my mind that I had read on my friend’s coffee table back in 2011. I also wasn’t aware of his wonderful comments on the the fraud taking over Armistice Day of 11/11 with the introduction of Veteran’s Day. We’ve replaced the “Voice of God” and the greatest moment of peace with honoring the continual production of more Veterans. We’re really shooting for greatness now.
I was going to replace Vonnegut’s United States Handicapper General with the new International House of Permission (IHOP) as the fraud has a much more global ambition of underachievement these days. IHOP is dedicated to all the bunnies just hopping when someone else gives them permission to hop. Yet when my cat comes around, you just lay there and get eaten. A bunny is probably the most helpless thing I can think of right now and the committee of IHOP is in charge. You don’t need my permission to tell the cat to f&%# off. Anyway…
I didn’t write that article because my head hurt so bad I wasn’t sure I could pull the bunny out of my hat. Just so everyone knows, it was the greatest article ever produced and if it were to have been written, the very concept of creation in this universe would have come to a complete halt.
The other option was to provide an update of the current cracks in the matrix that I can supply with my view. I didn’t write it yesterday either as I came to a standstill and I slept on it. I told myself that if one more big sign popped up today that I would engage the concept. Your update was exactly the perfect sign as I was going to highlight the progress of so many incredible things that have taken place that were written about in my “rant” in which I vented a built up cauldron of scathing opinion based strictly on logic, reason, and sound thinking about life on the Death Star in the United States.
In the moment of now, the US is headed towards a complete disaster, and no matter how many filters of the past someone wants to apply to act as the gauze on their ego, it doesn’t fix now. True cause and effect specialists read the words spoken now and the decisions being made today to understand what will be seen years down the road. I don’t care if your dad sold insurance in the 1950’s, it’s a full scam now, they can never pay out their policies written, and it’s assisting the enslavement of everyone now. Deal with it. I’m sure he was a nice guy.
I made quite a few people uncomfortable with this article, but let’s look now, a couple weeks later, at what has transpired to see the magic of creation that is finally taking place in relation to true information. If you haven’t read Dr Wierdlove, here it is:
Nothing I write is something I own so there’s nothing to profit from. In fact, calling people unintentional fascists isn’t usually very profitable. I started to write in 2010 to help teach people the financial markets after 2008 caught most everyone I know completely blindsided and then the markets fell apart in relation to operating on anything true. Then I died while alive, experienced some sort of walk-in or soul melding, found Dr. Stankov’s legendary work, blah blah blah blah. My agenda since then has been to educate and get energy moving where it should as it’s kicking my ass. Everything I have tried to make grow has been met with immediate resistance. Every time I mentioned something in the markets of note that looked like progress of a light based nature, it would immediately reverse and head the opposite way. The central planning involved in every single aspect of this is truly mind-boggling when you see it clearly. We no longer want to dwell on any of it, but we’re pulling the energetic rug out from under it.
Dr. Wierdlove is kicking major energetic ass and it’s entirely due to the PAT. What I write is also written by you. Take a look how much you’ve accomplished.
First, the true, fascist nature of the operation of the system was discussed. Several new US authors have since engaged the subject and the TPP trade documents have finally been released to reveal the single greatest corporate power grab possibly ever attempted.
Then it was pointed out how the money printers are not elected and there’s not one reason left to vote as they’ve reached the toilet paper phase. This election to the Fed board yesterday makes it five non-elected voting reps that formerly worked for Goldman Sachs controlling the US monetary supply. Europe was taken over recently the same way.
The market rally of October based on more governments announcing monetary debauchery was exposing the fascist nature of their intent and exposing the companies that are the transmission boys and girls. Of course Home Depot’s on the list if you read my real estate article a while back. There are a few others but these are the imperial troopers. Most people love Netflix, but don’t realize it may be the single biggest reason very few Americans have a single, true clue what is happening in the world as they now avoid the obviously fake news.
A mention was made of the poisoning of women and then this wonderful research was released:
Dr. Wierdlove took a quick turn to the unreal Israeli, Palestinian situation and anyone can look up the thousands of great articles on that subject detailing a different picture than painted in the past.
The discussion of the fraud and indoctrinating children in the Ponzi scheme was responded to the very next day by China. We’re powerful, but wow this was impressive.
Obamacare was outed for truly being a fascist health care system with intents discussed in later articles.
Now for the three biggest examples of PAT ass whoopin’.
Here’s the paragraph discussing pills and Warren Buffett from Dr. Wierdlove’s love of the current holocaust:
“Well shit, I sure can’t figure out why everyone but the nazis feel like shit. Here son, take some more pills. Warren Buffet is sold as our investing hero and every company he owns is poisoning people. Nice hero. Like Bill Burr said, keep Lance Armstrong on his bike because at least that’s one less sociopath out there running a corporation. Do you want Abilify with that antidepressant to kick it up a notch? Have fun son. Go get ’em kid.”
Just yesterday, Bill Ackman, one of the biggest hedge fund managers in the world and investor in major pharmaceutical companies, and the Buffet camp are arguing with each other publicly over how they invest in and poison people. Ackman’s Valeant pharmaceuticals is under attack and he responded to moral attacks on him by stating the truth that Buffet’s companies are poisoning people. I’ve waited for this moment for years.
To see pills and Coca-Cola get into a punch-up is just plain epic.
The next two are what happened today. Mario “jawbone” Draghi mentioned more money printing to keep verbally moving markets the direction the fraud wants and it didn’t respond at all. In fact, the markets rolled over hard and the Euro went up and the Dollar tanked. This is the exact opposite of the prop job that people have been responding to for years. The markets have already front run the money printing and the time for talk is done. The Euro was down in the morning as this article states, but reversed on the fraud later.
Dr. Wierdlove made it a point to highlight the free energy concepts that are available. Why anyone is working on any other energy concept at this point is beyond me, but I just work here. it is very appropriate that the rug is being pulled from under the oil market. I entirely credit this to consciousness work at this point. Every effort possible has been made to get oil to rally and I’m pretty sure most central banks are printing money hand over fist and buying oil to prop their Ponzi investments and it’s still failing.
Every technical indicator pointed to oil rallying again over the last two months, but it basically has just rolled over and died. This failure on the charts points to mid $20’s on oil and gas is crashing. Any success in the oil price to the upside is what feeds this whole resource scam and to see it failing this badly is quite inspiring. Nothing can happen at this point in the debt Charybdis that benefits the common man and woman so this ain’t good for the Ponz. The PAT should be quite proud of their efforts. This is the first area where consciousness has overcome this BS in years. The next is the complete implosion of the dollar/paper gold scam.
The obnoxiousness of last week reached levels beyond description in the financial markets. Credit expanded more month over month than any time in history as the Baltic Dry shipping index dropped to its lowest point in November in history. The fascist stock market rally reached an overbought level not seen in 20 years or so as most real numbers show earnings plummeting and a global depression setting in. It didn’t even matter that only 20 companies were responsible for it. Gold was forced down 15 out of 17 days for the first time in history as multiple governments announced more easy money and complete debauchery of thought. It has all become beyond perverse. We all know that, but to go through it anyway is quite surreal.
The plummet in today’s market shows the rest of the cracks. The commodities cartel is imploding worldwide. Glencore is back to crashing.
Anglo American is plummeting. Alcoa is hitting new lows as their aluminum Ponzi burns. The worldwide steel industry is in complete shambles and former behemoths become victims of their grandeur.
Small cap stocks are rolling over after having barely bounced with the big boys which is highlighting the true weakness of the American domestic economy. That’s not what we hear in the news I’m afraid. High yield junk bonds are near new lows first as everyone admits the corporate debt taken on the last few years is one giant fraud and balance sheets are a complete lie. The rally of the past couple years has hollowed out anything America had left. Where’d the gold go again?
The Bank of Greece is imploding again. Deutsche Bank is hitting new lows. RBS doesn’t look good. HSBC is a mess. Canadian banks charts are surprisingly strong with what’s happening there and with oil so I’d look for a quick plummet in that department.
The biotech chart of pharmaceutical companies looks terrible and should crash with any further market weakness.
A well focused rant is now beyond called for. Something grounded in logic and harnessed emotion is particularly effective at this point. I hope that everyone can see just how much ass we’re kicking already and I appreciate being a part of this all with you.
Excuse me while I go pull my toes out of neck.
With love and light,
The dire reality is catching up with the perception of the masses. In the last days it has become increasingly obvious that the Western economy is in the Greatest Depression of all time accompanied by a Hyperinflation. Both began invisibly for the experts and the masses and were well hidden by the cabal with rigged statistics. Now these facts cannot be hidden anymore and this is the end of the story.
Only yesterday we went to make some groceries after more than a week pause and we were flabbergasted to find that many items were 30-50% more expensive than a week ago. This could be a coincidence but then Henry Clymer from Rochester, USA wrote to me:
“We’re being suffocated with economic stagnation and inflation to the tune of 30% in prices on a weekly basis, i.e. for groceries, rent, insurance, etc. It is mind boggling.”
Hence this is a general trend in North America. It is the beginning of an exponential hyperinflation caused by the Greatest Depression and the current credit and cash crunch, which itself is the result of the unwinding of the debt crisis. Hence the bells toll the end of the Orion matrix and when it begins full force it will be destroyed within a few days.
This as a confirmation of your, as usually, excellent financial and economic analysis.
With love and light
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